ssa
07-28 12:47 PM
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
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immigrationaccount
08-28 06:19 PM
For those who got approvals,
Were there any RFEs regarding birth certificates in the cases where an affidavit was submitted initially?
I submitted birth affidavit with my application, PD 24/March/06, goes current from 1/Sep.
I understand from my parents that it takes good effort and may take long time to get the birth certificate. It will be a great help if you can share your experience.
Thank you.
Were there any RFEs regarding birth certificates in the cases where an affidavit was submitted initially?
I submitted birth affidavit with my application, PD 24/March/06, goes current from 1/Sep.
I understand from my parents that it takes good effort and may take long time to get the birth certificate. It will be a great help if you can share your experience.
Thank you.
pamposh
09-17 03:00 PM
Pamposh - Point is not we getting money, idea is getting it back from USCIS. Whoever paid it, USCIS got it. Moreover, money is not the only issue. There are quite a few as we listed before.
Completely agreed. It is not about money, that is just a small portion of the whole issue and it does not matter who paid it. Infact even if the employer is paying for our application he/she is not paying it for free, they pay coz we work for them so logically it could be considered our money...that is what we need to emphasize on.
Its ideal, we dont waste our energy on these.
I don't think we are wasting energy/time by identifying gaps and answering questions to folks who want to know more about what exactly are we talking about here. Moving on and gaining more and more support etc., all these things need to be done in parallel.
Completely agreed. It is not about money, that is just a small portion of the whole issue and it does not matter who paid it. Infact even if the employer is paying for our application he/she is not paying it for free, they pay coz we work for them so logically it could be considered our money...that is what we need to emphasize on.
Its ideal, we dont waste our energy on these.
I don't think we are wasting energy/time by identifying gaps and answering questions to folks who want to know more about what exactly are we talking about here. Moving on and gaining more and more support etc., all these things need to be done in parallel.
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ravish_kaipa
12-10 01:48 PM
Hi Proud American
I just feel so sorry about your understanding of the modern economics. If you think , by asking foreign born workers to go back you can get more access to the so called "wealth" you are talking about , its time you enroll for an Economics 101 . It is your proud America that has long been shouting from the rooftops about the need to have more open borders, facilitate global transfer of knowledge and commodities . Anyway , I dont think I have to even argue with you as you need lots of orientation before I get into a meaningful debate with you . I am happy for one thing thou , that inspite of zealots like you America has had great visionaries in tha past that made this country the only existing super power in the world , else it would have been like another Eastern European country .
Thanks!
I just feel so sorry about your understanding of the modern economics. If you think , by asking foreign born workers to go back you can get more access to the so called "wealth" you are talking about , its time you enroll for an Economics 101 . It is your proud America that has long been shouting from the rooftops about the need to have more open borders, facilitate global transfer of knowledge and commodities . Anyway , I dont think I have to even argue with you as you need lots of orientation before I get into a meaningful debate with you . I am happy for one thing thou , that inspite of zealots like you America has had great visionaries in tha past that made this country the only existing super power in the world , else it would have been like another Eastern European country .
Thanks!
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spicy_guy
02-02 07:18 PM
Well guys...
I agree that India is a land of pollution - polluted air and polluted minds (corruption, jealousy, materialistic attitude), it is still a very native part of our life. No matter where we live on this planet, whatever hapens in India, we do get affected by it.
I just visited India after 7 years. As far as India goes, I love:
-- My parents living there, perhaps they will never come to USA to stay with me permanently, and
-- The school kids I see on road in their school uniform, waiting for their school vans or walking as a group, making jokes and laughing out of their breath.
I always wonder that they do not know what hardhsip lies ahead of them, when they grow up after finishing their school - competition to get college admission, studies, competitive jobs, corruption, ever rising cost of living, etc. etc.
Most of my old friends in India have gone too busy in making money and 'rising on the top". It is as if they are in some kind of a race in panic, so they don't get left behind everybody else and what not.
What does "rising on the top" mean anyway? Whom are you collecting money for?
I recently bought the latest Samsung 3D LED TV to have a better movie experience. And I noticed that I enjoyed movies on small 22" inch TV more than I enjoy on a big LED TV - provided the movie is good and I have a good company.
So my friend (who is leaving for India)...
You can find happiness and joy in little things in life, irrespective of where you are staying. These commodities are not exclusively sold in India or anywhere else.
If you have made a decision to move to India, be proud of it and do it! Just set a good example in india and don't get involved in the dirty corrupted cycles there.
Good Luck!!
Nicely written! Out of all above posts, this one seems to be sensible and I just seem to like this much! :)
I agree that India is a land of pollution - polluted air and polluted minds (corruption, jealousy, materialistic attitude), it is still a very native part of our life. No matter where we live on this planet, whatever hapens in India, we do get affected by it.
I just visited India after 7 years. As far as India goes, I love:
-- My parents living there, perhaps they will never come to USA to stay with me permanently, and
-- The school kids I see on road in their school uniform, waiting for their school vans or walking as a group, making jokes and laughing out of their breath.
I always wonder that they do not know what hardhsip lies ahead of them, when they grow up after finishing their school - competition to get college admission, studies, competitive jobs, corruption, ever rising cost of living, etc. etc.
Most of my old friends in India have gone too busy in making money and 'rising on the top". It is as if they are in some kind of a race in panic, so they don't get left behind everybody else and what not.
What does "rising on the top" mean anyway? Whom are you collecting money for?
I recently bought the latest Samsung 3D LED TV to have a better movie experience. And I noticed that I enjoyed movies on small 22" inch TV more than I enjoy on a big LED TV - provided the movie is good and I have a good company.
So my friend (who is leaving for India)...
You can find happiness and joy in little things in life, irrespective of where you are staying. These commodities are not exclusively sold in India or anywhere else.
If you have made a decision to move to India, be proud of it and do it! Just set a good example in india and don't get involved in the dirty corrupted cycles there.
Good Luck!!
Nicely written! Out of all above posts, this one seems to be sensible and I just seem to like this much! :)
desi3933
08-03 06:34 PM
Did you send out the latest letters...I am getting a positive feed back ..that approximately at least 500 letters have gone out..we started to make noise.. and we will see the results eventually...More action items will follow in comming weeks..Dont forget the high five though campaign though ;)
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20452
How do you know that 500 letters have gone out?
Thanks and Good Luck!
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20452
How do you know that 500 letters have gone out?
Thanks and Good Luck!
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abq_gc
08-18 03:09 PM
What USCIS practise is unfair and unethical. Approving 2006 cases and leaving all those old cases is really an inhuman act.
What is the gaurantee that it will not happen to EB3 in the future? Let say in october EB3 becomes current and they start approving cases filed in 2006 and 2007 and leaving 2001, 2002 and other old cases, will you just keep quite?
Currently its happening to EB2. There's a 200% chance that it may happen to EB3 also.
So its better to fight it out collectively. There's no point in dividing the community. Just think about it.
I agree with Refugee
What is the gaurantee that it will not happen to EB3 in the future? Let say in october EB3 becomes current and they start approving cases filed in 2006 and 2007 and leaving 2001, 2002 and other old cases, will you just keep quite?
Currently its happening to EB2. There's a 200% chance that it may happen to EB3 also.
So its better to fight it out collectively. There's no point in dividing the community. Just think about it.
I agree with Refugee
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pandu_hawaldar
09-03 05:34 PM
Got CPO email today 09/03
EAD at TSC
Paper mailed: July 05.
Receipt Date: July 08.
Soft LUD: July 11.
Priority Date: May 06, EB-3 (Ind).
EAD at TSC
Paper mailed: July 05.
Receipt Date: July 08.
Soft LUD: July 11.
Priority Date: May 06, EB-3 (Ind).
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gcgcgcgc
09-21 12:52 PM
I got my receipt notices (485,765,131) yesterday. I had my 140 approved from Texas. Lawyer filed 485 package on July 17th to Texas. I got my receipt notices on 09/18/07 from Nebraska.
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anzerraja
07-20 12:54 AM
Thanks Very much SS_col !!!!
Count me in for $100. Have contributed to IV before as well.
Count me in for $100. Have contributed to IV before as well.
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anju
12-19 02:29 PM
On the same boat. Filed SR twice. No fp notice yet.
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immi2006
11-21 11:37 AM
I think courage to fight back can cure.
I came out of a rare disease myself in the last 2 year battle for which there was no cure.
You got to fight it out. My prayers are with you, hope the outcome is positive.
I came out of a rare disease myself in the last 2 year battle for which there was no cure.
You got to fight it out. My prayers are with you, hope the outcome is positive.
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diptam
05-23 07:05 AM
See , they started the 3 yr H1B extension only on basis of Retrogression...
and only if you have a approved 140... My Labor was more than 365 days old, so i got couple of 1 yr extension so far... Now my 140 is applied and once approved i'm hoping to apply for 3 yr extension...
But if there is no retrogression - why do i need the above 3 yr H1B ?? I believe the point that IV is addressing is the BURNING issue ... " GET RID OF RETROGRESSION" ....
thanks
and only if you have a approved 140... My Labor was more than 365 days old, so i got couple of 1 yr extension so far... Now my 140 is applied and once approved i'm hoping to apply for 3 yr extension...
But if there is no retrogression - why do i need the above 3 yr H1B ?? I believe the point that IV is addressing is the BURNING issue ... " GET RID OF RETROGRESSION" ....
thanks
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gcsomeday
06-27 12:47 PM
If the options are sign or do not sign and no EAD/GC for a long long time or never, I would just sign the damn thing. This contract is way too restrictive and lawyers will find lot of loopholes. Let him go to court. If he dares to, what do you lose? $10,000? He has to spend more than that, face publicity, lose reputation among clients ( send the freaking agreement to all his clients and advertise in all awebsites) and intense scrutiny by Homeland Security and possible arrest. Just somehow document all your conversations which implicate him and be prepared.
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Googler
07-07 09:14 PM
she said "But we're prepared to talk to people about what happened here."
hope that means they are willing to talk about giving EAD. If we get EAD all the lawsuits will be withdrawn. The law does not say AOS applications should not be accepted when there are no visa numbers available, the law only says AOS cannot be approved when visa numbers are not available. USCIS internal regulations says they will not accept AOS applications when priority date is not current. by now its quite apparent that USCIS has broken a lot of there own internal regulations just to make sure the visa numbers are used up before july 2 2007. Then can easily accomodate the EAD for july filers. It all depends upon the pressure exerted on USCIS and DOS
Pitha -- the law says quite clearly that AOS applications cannot be filed if visa numbers are not available. Which is why IV was trying to get in an amendment that says AOS can be filed even when visa numbers are not available.
USCIS would fight a change in this tooth and nail -- cos as the Ombudsman has reported again and again in his annual reports -- when they spend a huge amount of time churning out EADs and APs, actual adjudications of green cards fall behind. Then there are the people (incl Ombudsman) who say that such interim benefits (EAD AP) should not be granted to such large numbers of people without security checks etc.
My guess is that this is precisely why USCIS didn't want the all current situation. They don't want to be stuck with 700K applications which have no hope of getting a greencard for years upon years, while they churn out EADs and APs for all those years.
Of course, one fix would be to increase the EAD time period to 3 yrs. Something they have been unwilling to do.
hope that means they are willing to talk about giving EAD. If we get EAD all the lawsuits will be withdrawn. The law does not say AOS applications should not be accepted when there are no visa numbers available, the law only says AOS cannot be approved when visa numbers are not available. USCIS internal regulations says they will not accept AOS applications when priority date is not current. by now its quite apparent that USCIS has broken a lot of there own internal regulations just to make sure the visa numbers are used up before july 2 2007. Then can easily accomodate the EAD for july filers. It all depends upon the pressure exerted on USCIS and DOS
Pitha -- the law says quite clearly that AOS applications cannot be filed if visa numbers are not available. Which is why IV was trying to get in an amendment that says AOS can be filed even when visa numbers are not available.
USCIS would fight a change in this tooth and nail -- cos as the Ombudsman has reported again and again in his annual reports -- when they spend a huge amount of time churning out EADs and APs, actual adjudications of green cards fall behind. Then there are the people (incl Ombudsman) who say that such interim benefits (EAD AP) should not be granted to such large numbers of people without security checks etc.
My guess is that this is precisely why USCIS didn't want the all current situation. They don't want to be stuck with 700K applications which have no hope of getting a greencard for years upon years, while they churn out EADs and APs for all those years.
Of course, one fix would be to increase the EAD time period to 3 yrs. Something they have been unwilling to do.
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06-16 11:45 AM
Concurrent I-140/I-485: Yes
Mailed From State: MA
Mailed to NSC: June 11
Received at NSC: June 12
Transferred to TSC: ?
140 approved : ?
Receipt Date : ?
Notice Date : ?
Mailed From State: MA
Mailed to NSC: June 11
Received at NSC: June 12
Transferred to TSC: ?
140 approved : ?
Receipt Date : ?
Notice Date : ?
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jfredr
11-21 10:51 AM
Hi Mehul,
I have heard in the past that Wife gets consideration in case of family problems like divorce.
Definetly there should be a way check with Attorney.
I have heard in the past that Wife gets consideration in case of family problems like divorce.
Definetly there should be a way check with Attorney.
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akhilmahajan
02-11 12:19 PM
Thanks a lot nk2006 and kkarun.
Grand Total - $1551
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.I'm going to send check for $50 today.
Grand Total - $1551
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.I'm going to send check for $50 today.
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sledge_hammer
02-12 12:33 PM
I never claimed I'm going to refrain from going ballistic with words when insults are hurled at me! Maintaining high moral standards and bad language usage doesn't always have to be mutually exclusive. Your logic is waaaayyyyyy flawed if you think they are, my friend!
Coming to your point about F1 status, I can speak for myself that I did come to the US with the intention of going back. I was offered a job while I was still in school and I changed my mind only then. My statement earlier is not conveying my intentions clearly.
It is also true that if USCIS needed to enforce that students are requried to go back to their home country after school, then they should not issue a COS with the H-1B approval, forcing the student to re-enter.
Many of your posts are sensible but you use language which does not befit your self-imposed imaginary high standards. Anyways, the quoted statement itself shows moral contradictions and you have misrepresented your intentions when you went to the consulate. F1 is a non-immigrant visa with the underlying implication that you return to your home country. Please get off your high horse.
Coming to your point about F1 status, I can speak for myself that I did come to the US with the intention of going back. I was offered a job while I was still in school and I changed my mind only then. My statement earlier is not conveying my intentions clearly.
It is also true that if USCIS needed to enforce that students are requried to go back to their home country after school, then they should not issue a COS with the H-1B approval, forcing the student to re-enter.
Many of your posts are sensible but you use language which does not befit your self-imposed imaginary high standards. Anyways, the quoted statement itself shows moral contradictions and you have misrepresented your intentions when you went to the consulate. F1 is a non-immigrant visa with the underlying implication that you return to your home country. Please get off your high horse.
mirage
07-08 12:21 PM
Previous years Oct Visa Bulletins doesn't look encouraging at all, EB-3 India moved by a week and other categories move by a month or 2. With USCIS taking huge no. of applications in june'07 the future of oct'07 seems to be pretty bleak, It is quiet depressing. We surely need this legislation of ability to file 485 even if visa dates not current.
GCEB2
09-11 06:49 PM
Hi GCEB2,
Please share you Infopass experience after you are done with it today. My case is exactly same as yours.
I had info pass appointment today in Newark they asked my
Info pass appointment letter
I-485 approval letter
Passports
I told them it�s almost one a month, I didn�t get my card yet. Then they gave me a token number and when my turn came. I met the USCIS officer he wasn�t much help at all. he just gave me 551 stamp for 1yr and when I asked him about biometric he said last year I took in Oct-07 its good till next month and I don�t need it.
I was expecting 551 stamp look like h1 visa stamp, but it�s just an ordinary stamp.
After coming home I called USCIS asked them about the card. She told me that card was sent out for production today and I should get it within 1 week to 30 days. Because it was sent out today that�s the reason I didn�t get the email update
Approved on 8-12-08
Please share you Infopass experience after you are done with it today. My case is exactly same as yours.
I had info pass appointment today in Newark they asked my
Info pass appointment letter
I-485 approval letter
Passports
I told them it�s almost one a month, I didn�t get my card yet. Then they gave me a token number and when my turn came. I met the USCIS officer he wasn�t much help at all. he just gave me 551 stamp for 1yr and when I asked him about biometric he said last year I took in Oct-07 its good till next month and I don�t need it.
I was expecting 551 stamp look like h1 visa stamp, but it�s just an ordinary stamp.
After coming home I called USCIS asked them about the card. She told me that card was sent out for production today and I should get it within 1 week to 30 days. Because it was sent out today that�s the reason I didn�t get the email update
Approved on 8-12-08
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